There's a common problem with Western governments: for example, we claim that a military action is required because the situation is so serious...but then we don't ACT like it's serious. Indeed, Western governments have not been acting like ANY problem is serious other than the greatest horror ever faced in the history of the world: COVID🤔??? And the USA is going bankrupt & printing money...but a big yawn over that...
The last time the USA really acted as though a military action was critical was WW II: the civilian population was mobilized in various ways to support the war, there was rationing, there was a universal draft, etc. That was also the last time we clearly won a war.
In this case, it's not only that there is business as usual--at least in Tel Aviv--but also that there is basically a blanket draft exemption for the ultra-orthodox, domestic spending has not been slashed in favor of military-related imperatives, blocking major roads in war time is considered acceptable, etc.
People go by actions much more than words: Israel is not ACTING as though it is in a war for existence.
By initiating a war while 250 hostages were in Gaza Israel made it clear that retaliation was aim one and hostages aim 2. Israel should have held back until the hostages were returned. I am against this war which is a cover for the political and military leadership survival.
You betcha the US is plotting to topple Bibi. Remember Vickie Nuland and her cookies? The US has incredibly strong interests in the region and is sick of Israeli intransigence. I predict Bibi's gone one month after the Nov election, even if Biden loses.
That approach sure would have worked for Hamas! That's why they took the hostages in the first place!
The goal: launch a horrific attack; use hostages to prevent any Israeli response; plan, resupply, & train for the next attack; launch the new attack--taking more hostages; use the hostages to again prevent any Israeli response; and continue until Israel no longer exists.
With or without hostages hamas had no real military capability and would have been destroyed quickly in a staged attack. How would they move forward? In pickup trucks??? How would they defend logistic supply lines? Taking more hostages as a means of defense? Your ideas are a joke.
Apparently you missed October 7, 2023, and your absurd dismissal of the capabilities of Hamas is the type of thinking that made October 7th possible. NEVER underestimate those seeking to kill you. NEVER!
What are the scenarios to get the hostages home? Ceasefire and release prisoners for a number of hostages, getting some but not all
what other scenarios?
Pull out of Gaza and lose the war? Would Hamas release all hostages at that moment?
Win the war while rescuing the hostages.
It is excruciating
In the past, the British tried to destroy the state before it was born. In the present, the USA is trying to destroy the state which does exist.
The USA is trying to unseat the leader of the government of Israel as it has done in so many other countries in the past and caused chaos!
Israel is not a proxy state of USA
There's a common problem with Western governments: for example, we claim that a military action is required because the situation is so serious...but then we don't ACT like it's serious. Indeed, Western governments have not been acting like ANY problem is serious other than the greatest horror ever faced in the history of the world: COVID🤔??? And the USA is going bankrupt & printing money...but a big yawn over that...
The last time the USA really acted as though a military action was critical was WW II: the civilian population was mobilized in various ways to support the war, there was rationing, there was a universal draft, etc. That was also the last time we clearly won a war.
In this case, it's not only that there is business as usual--at least in Tel Aviv--but also that there is basically a blanket draft exemption for the ultra-orthodox, domestic spending has not been slashed in favor of military-related imperatives, blocking major roads in war time is considered acceptable, etc.
People go by actions much more than words: Israel is not ACTING as though it is in a war for existence.
By initiating a war while 250 hostages were in Gaza Israel made it clear that retaliation was aim one and hostages aim 2. Israel should have held back until the hostages were returned. I am against this war which is a cover for the political and military leadership survival.
You betcha the US is plotting to topple Bibi. Remember Vickie Nuland and her cookies? The US has incredibly strong interests in the region and is sick of Israeli intransigence. I predict Bibi's gone one month after the Nov election, even if Biden loses.
That approach sure would have worked for Hamas! That's why they took the hostages in the first place!
The goal: launch a horrific attack; use hostages to prevent any Israeli response; plan, resupply, & train for the next attack; launch the new attack--taking more hostages; use the hostages to again prevent any Israeli response; and continue until Israel no longer exists.
With or without hostages hamas had no real military capability and would have been destroyed quickly in a staged attack. How would they move forward? In pickup trucks??? How would they defend logistic supply lines? Taking more hostages as a means of defense? Your ideas are a joke.
Apparently you missed October 7, 2023, and your absurd dismissal of the capabilities of Hamas is the type of thinking that made October 7th possible. NEVER underestimate those seeking to kill you. NEVER!
And the "joke", as you put it, was not funny.